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Post#1  Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:27 am  Reply with quote + 
Hi.

Do you remember Bomberman64 for Nintendo 64?
Of course, you do, so do I.

This was one of my favorite games on the Nintendo 64 and I was so fascinated of this
game and the possible to build bomb brigdes which wasnt in a bomberman before.

The bomb brigdes was more like a hidden feature of this game to reach the hidden places or collect hidden objects (and of course, to complete the game with the real ending...)

Sadly the other Bomberman games doesnt have this nice feature.

So all I though is: Wow, you have to make a remake of this.

A little about me:
Spoiler:
Im 23 years old and live in germany where I study IT right now, but I already have 9 years of coding experience.

I also learned how to use Blender (3D Modeling Tool) to create "basic" models with rigs and animations.

I know a little bit about gimp and how to use it.
(Almost every textures are made by me with it)

Something about the coding stuff:
Spoiler:
This game is coded in C++ and uses Ogre as renderer, and PhysX for the physic and is
going to use Irrklang for sound, maybe recast for the AI, but its overloaded for this game.
It also use FxPression - its an Particle Editor for nice effects.
(So no easy game engine like Unity or similar "easy point and click - done" engine.)
I´ve coded it from scratch.

Of course, everything you going to see in the videos are made by me.
(But not the Bomberman model, some of the textures )
I´ve rigged and animated the Bomberman model, so I´ve spend much time on it.

Levels, models etc are made in Blender, so this is going to be my main editor.

Goal:

The goal of this remake is to make a new (and better) Bomberman 64 and after you finished the original story, there will be a whole new story.


Actual status:
Spoiler:
Pre pre pre alpha experimental XD

Bomberman:
-Movement: Done
-Can kick bombs: Done
-Can stop bombs (and bombs which was kicked by a bomb): Done
-Can throw stuff: Done
-Can pump bomb: Done
-Can pickup stuff: Done + 10% for special cases
-Can explode a remote bomb: Done
-Can get tipsy after hitting a bomb (including jumping, or jumpover bomb) or enemy: 50%
-Animations: 80%
-Can jump over a bomb: Done + 10% for special cases
-Can collect items: Done

Bomb:
-Movement: Done
-Explosions: Done
-Remote: Done
-Jump behaviour: 70%


Items:
Movement: 10%
-BombUp, FireUp, Blue/Red Diamond, Heart, Remote, Red bomb, Red remote bomb: Done

Explodeable objects:
-Tree, Box, Vase: Done

Camera: 90%

Enemys: (much much code useable from bomberman) 10%

AI: 0%

Sound 0%

Special effects: 5%

GUI: 0% (Removed all old code)

Special events: 0%

Level: 1%

Model: 10%

Texture: 10%


Some undesired effects:
Spoiler:
Sadly, because of the 3D design and Physx, the bomb physics arent deterministic,
which results in always a different bomb bridge with the same input, but its much much
work to make it deterministic and its cpu intensive.
So I decided to let it go, this makes the bomb bridges harder to build which is a nice
feature :D (and of course, this makes the game difficult and its easier to code)

I cant use any original data of this game, like textures or level design, so I make my own levels which is similar but different to the original levels.

I dont often update this page because I want to code instead of write any new progress.
So every month or two month I´m going to update or show a new video.


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Post#2  Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:35 pm  Reply with quote + 
I´ve got some problems with my account but now it works again.

So, since my first post Wesker911 didn´t really reply i think he wont work with me.

Ive got some good news about my project:

As I said in my posts before, I use Irrlicht as my 3d render.
But irrlicht doesnt satisfied my claims.

So I´ve changed my renderer to Ogre !
With awesome results!
I also bought FXpression, which is a Particle Editor for Ogre.
( and, of course another engines )

So my explosions from the bombs are much better and I will use other
particle effects too. But I dont have a screenshot yet, I will upload it soon.
( New bomb explosion vs old bomb explosion )

But there are also some annoying bugs - which cant be !
I´m on my way to solve all bugs, but I dont have much time to code, yet.

If somebody are interested at this game you can post it here, maybe you have some
suggestions about it.

I also need an artist who can create models or animate them, I could do it too
but as I said before, I dont have much time for everything because I have my
"exam phase"

Regards.


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Post#3  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:03 am  Reply with quote + 
Here is the video which shows the old explosion vs
the new explosion.

Hope you like it!

http://www.file-upload.net/dow.....1.avi.html

3.6 mb, 13 seconds.


-> Is somebody reading this post?

If not, I want to create one on ogre forums, because there are more people..


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Post#4  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:08 am  Reply with quote + 
People read everything posted here, not alot of people, but people. If you're looking to reach the masses, certainly best to look elsewhere.
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Post#5  Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:51 pm  Reply with quote + 
I cannot speak for everyone else, but the reason why I in particular have not responded to this topic up until now is because I have seen a lot of Bomberman clones that were never completed and a lot that were half-assed. I haven't really seen anything in this topic that I haven't previously seen in other discontinued fan projects. If there were something more concrete that I could comment on, then I would.

Also, as fireball has stated, most or all of the users on this forum who might be able to contribute to such a project are already working on their own projects, Bomberman-related or otherwise. I in particular am so busy with so many things that I cannot even find the time to finish the games that I currently have in development. You would probably find more interest in a development-oriented forum.

Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion/frustration.
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Post#6  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:58 am  Reply with quote + 
I dont want to reach the masses, I only want to say:

Hey, I´m programming a remake of Bomberman64, which is the true 3D adventure and not the 2D game which everybody else copied.

But I dont know if you are interested anymore of it.

To Jacob:

Its okay if you dont reply, you are speaking from your experience.
I see that many of artists are already working on some other projects, so
they haven´t the time to help me - or they dont want it.
But your reply clears me up. Thank you.


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Post#7  Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:08 am  Reply with quote + 
ScreenOfDeath wrote:
Hey, I´m programming a remake of Bomberman64, which is the true 3D adventure and not the 2D game which everybody else copied.

But I dont know if you are interested anymore of it.

Two notes, one I'm not personally all that interested in the project because I was never a fan of 3d bomberman.

And, again, you're not going to find much interest in this community. I mean even the playerbase of the official bomberman games of recent has mostly died off. To hold much of our interest, you'll have to show quite a lot. We're not a group that will sustain much excitement, especially for early projects. If you require interest to continue your project, you might as well give up now. If you are making this for yourself, then of course carry on. Actually, that's true for all projects. Never pursue a personal project you wouldn't be happy with if no one noticed. Only then will you ever care enough to produce something that people actually will care about.
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Post#8  Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:01 am  Reply with quote + 
Its okay that only some people are looking into this post.

I´m on my way to code this game and its status isnt even alpha, so
the basics arent done yet.

But I will keep up my work. I cant show you more than these to screenshots,
because I have done the basics first. ( Ca. 60 % of all the "main basics" are done )

Which includes:

Bomb stop after kicking
Bomb remote triggering
( Both in order like the Bomberman64 )
Different styles of bomb explosion
and other stuff too.

But im a little bit stucked on the phsics, because there are many different ways to code it - and I want the best one.


So,
that you again for your advices :D

Regards.


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Post#9  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:25 pm  Reply with quote + 
So maybe someone is waiting for some news about my project.

I had many things to do and hadn´t enough time to hard work on it.

Additionally we created a team which is programming a mmofps and I´m going to study IT in September, thus I hadn´t time for this project. I still have the source and resources of my Bomberman 64 Remake, if I´m done with that project and my college or if I have more freetime I want to complete this game. Most of the remake gamebasics are done, therefore is a further development at anytime possible.

I hope that you are not sad about this, this remake isn´t dead, its only frozen :D

Regards.


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Post#10  Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:02 am  Reply with quote + 
I dont know but somtimes I check this thread for any new posts.
- I guess somebody else do this too.

Actually, I have some good news about my remake. I improved many things - collision, camera system, animation and game basis like the bomb behaivour. Also the textures and models are improved.

But at this point of development, I have some fears about the copyright.
Hudson was taken over by Konami which have the rights for all content.

I dont know much about their licence or trademarks.
There are so many games which use Bomberman - or some similiar names.
I guess only a few asked about the rights to use this name. ( Content / Gameplay )

Most people knows about the copyright issue of Chrono Trigger.
So I guess I never can release my remake to publicity - its only for me.

When I have more time, will ask Konami for its legals about making a remake of Bomberman64 - ( and I will ask about the textures and meshs which Im going to use with it. ). I guess the main problem are the textures / meshs - even the level design.


All I want to say is that I spend some time for my project - and its growing.
So the status is actually frozen - but I´m also working on it, when I have time.
( Mostly at 11 pm - 1 am ) :D

So. Maybe someone are now a little bit happier.


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Post#11  Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:37 pm  Reply with quote + 
Some copywrite holders are pretty damn cool overall. Sonic Retro, for example, is a Sonic rom hacking site yet SEGA is in really good standings with that site. I do not know Konami's history with fan projects so it's hard to know how they would react to something like this. I wouldn't worry about it until they contact you though. As long as you're not trying to make money off of it, they're not going to throw you in court or anything like that.
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Post#12  Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:35 am  Reply with quote + 
I guess its better to ask for permission before I release photos, videos or anything like that. Due to the fact that Konami is a really big company and I dont want any trouble with them. But the facts about the sonic hacks are interesting.

Its maybe nothing important but the " bomb jump over behaviour" are almost done.
Therefore its possible to reach new places with the bomb brigdes. - I guess I have to increase the max bomb count to 12.
I've also included some animaitions like running and throwing - just as test. Animation blending isnt implemented yet. This part are done before I code any any AI. So there is still much to do but Im working on it. :)


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Post#13  Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:07 pm  Reply with quote + 
Hell, there are some cases where companies publish fan projects like Street Fighter X Mega Man and Duke Nukem 3D: Reloaded...actually, it turns out Duke Nukem 3D: Reloaded's development process ended up going to hell. :/ You can find out why in this guy's blog about that game's development.

Duke Nukem Reloaded & Interceptor Entertainment
Part 1: [LINK] Part 2: [LINK] Part 3: [LINK] Part 4: [LINK]
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Post#14  Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:49 am  Reply with quote + 
Hm.
Those storys are really interesting.
I've spend the last 2 days on the animation system. At that time I've changed it 3x - because there is always a better way to implement it. The best way is to use an animation software like Alienmotion - but 750€ are to expensive for it. (and it never get updates since 2012...) So I have to code the playback of the animations which I made with blender. It really takes time to code it. It isn't finished yet but it already have 5 animations which works well.

So maybe I release a short video where you can something interesting...

.... Or maybe not :)

It would be nice if an admin could change the topic to remake instead of remix. It would be even nicer if he could change the thread owner to me because wesker911 didnt answer here...
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Post#15  Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:43 pm  Reply with quote + 
Eh? I'd just create a new topic honestly, instead of hijacking this one.
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Post#16  Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:31 am  Reply with quote + 
I guess I have to create a new thread but I wont do it now :)

I want to show you some ingame pictures. I cant record a video because most
video software are crapy or expensive. ( And I´m to lazy to download it :D)

Most texture are only a place holder - I will do some nice texture / meshs when I´m alomost done with everything. Its only for me for the visual to see something.
So these are only a few pre pre alpha pictures ;D

Spoiler:










I hope you like it :)


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Post#17  Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:16 pm  Reply with quote + 
Yeah ;)
I had some time for my project and its still growing,
even when I didnt comment for a while.

Ive coded my own animation system which works good,
but I wasnt sacrefized with it.

So I deleted it and wrote it again from scratch, and now its
much better.

Thus its new design I had to change the whole animations
of Bomberman, but all animations have smooth fadings.

I did some bomb behaviour coding, movment improvements
and other nice things too.
Ive also changed the SDKs to PhysX 3.3 beta and Ogre 1.9.

One of the anoying things are the new camera style -
which allows the player 360° view around the yaw axis.
Thus this nice feature, its more complicated to kick the bombs
in the right angle or to calculate the impact angle with its forces to make the bomb roll in the right direction without
any speed changes.

In B64 there was a fixed angle cam - the camera stucks at
angles of 45° so the calculation is very simple.

So bombs have a offset when they collide with other bombs,
its impossible to change it due to the fact of the great camera.

(In B64 bombs collides with bombs only when you kick them
In the right angle - in my game, its possible when you
kick them in the right direction and they collide in any angle.)

Thus its harder to code the bomb behaviour but it has great
features thus it. Example: Harder to create bomb bridges,
new ways to solve mazes, ....

I also thought about the level design - I guess I wont get
permission to the copyright so I will design new levels.

So, I didnt have much time to code but its still growing:)
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Post#18  Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:42 pm  Reply with quote + 
Small Update:

I´ve spend few seconds and made a short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGa5pBzR4nA

It shows the pre pre alpha state.
Only the basic things are working - some features are deactivated and thus they wont
work correct etc. etc.

Most anoying thing is the calculation from the faces (normals) for the bomb
rolling behaviour - it works only for 90 degree normals, not yet for "wild" normals,
thus its only possible to kick a bomb against a wall and it wont loose speed and
dont touch it - for "rotated" walls, its impossible and the bomb wont do the correct
behaviour. Some of this behaviour is also missing, I´ve added this today and its still
under development.

Okay. Enough for today :D
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Post#19  Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:48 am  Reply with quote + 
Here is another video.
Description says all - but there are some bugs in this video. XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KabUf396_Ks


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Post#20  Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:41 pm  Reply with quote + 
Is there a way to change the topic name from "Remix" to "remake" ?
(And maybe you should remove "and xbox 360" too :) )

Its been a while I´ve post something, so I changed many things in the meantime.
There are new animations, effects and better bomb behaviour and so on.
(But almost nothing is shown in the video :D)
But its very very tricky to get the jumping behaviour done like in the Bomberman64 game.

Bomberman64 for N64 was mostly sprite based, with some 3D models, but almost
every important part is done by sprites. So the system about the bombs,
the "on the edge running and not falling down" and other "physic" stuff is pretty easy
handeld on the N64.

So - physic cant be deterministic (only with kinematic actors, but they have their own problems..). And a cold rest of the physic engine is tooo much for each bomb.

The behaviour may change during play, you can see it in the video.
Its not perfect, but it works and I´ve spend much time on it.
Okay, it need more tuning, and Bomberman should be able to push bombs away I think.
(But this is hard to code, I guess its maybe better to let him push away these bombs..)

The bomb bridges are one of the basics which should completely done before I do something else, because almost everything is related to it.

(You see a pre alpha map - Im going to create my own maps, and this is a smal part of it)

Here is the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE31eB2_WDs


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