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fireball87
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Post#9  Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:41 am  Reply with quote + 
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Sora G. Silverwind wrote:
Jesus mentioned that "only" a man and woman get married? Do you mind citing your passage for this? The last I checked, Jesus couldn't give a flying pig's foot about sexuality - he was more concerned with helping the poor and not being a hypocrite.

What i said is that Jesus "only" mentioned a man and woman could get married, the inclusion of terms only seems to strengthen the other cases meanings. Matthew 19:1-6 Since you asked i'll give you links to it in several versions.

NIV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2019:1-6&version=31
NLT http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2019:1-6;&version=51;
KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2019:1-6;&version=9;


I still stand by my assertion that people in those times would not have been able to fathom a relationship that was completely normal except for the fact that it happened to have been between two people of the same gender. If they knew of any homosexual relations, it would have most likely been in the context of pagan worship, as in the case of Paul. So of course they would automatically think it was wrong, because "LOOKIT THOSE EBBIL PAGANS DOING IT. THE PAGANS ARE DOING IT, THEREFORE IT'S NOT NORMAL." And, if it were a significant problem that would have concerned the people at that time, it would have been specifically, very explicitly mentioned.


Your probably right, culture has changed quite a bit, but the Bible has stayed up to date better then most books atleast.


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It is also stated in the bible that sex before marriage is wrong, and lust is also wrong. Therefore, wouldn't that raise a question to how homosexuality could actually be practiced at all abiding with these statements.

Sex before marriage is its own category apart from homosexuality. The two aren't inherently related, though since people are raising a brouhahaha over whether homosexual people should allowed to get married at all, apparently now it is (except it's still not). I really don't care weather or not, leagaly there are homosexual marriages, or civil unions, but forcing it upon the church annoys me, even weather or not it was a Christian marriage would still be debatable But two people can be in a homosexual relationship and still be celibate. All the power to them

As for the lust thing, I tend to think of that as a case of "Nothing in excess" or "All things in moderation" Well, i tend to take it as a serious always a sin senerio, mostly based on Matthew 5:28
NIV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:28;&version=31;
NLT http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:28;&version=51;
KJV http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:28;&version=9;
(thank you, oracle at Delphi). But, yanno, make your own call. I've got no right to tell other people how to live their lives. Right back at ya, though that doesn't stop; me from discussing things and hoping people don't start going to God

Whee, that was fun ^^... Well, thats how i see things.
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